Former President Donald Trump discussed the importance of religion and his understanding of heaven during a recent interview with Fox News host Laura Ingraham.

Trump, whose personal pastor and spiritual advisor is Paula White, told Ingraham that one of the reasons America has “lost sort of everything” is because “we don’t have religion to the same extent” as we used to.

“It’s just going bad,” Trump said, blaming the Democratic party for the nation’s religious decline. “Democrats were violent and ruthless to religion during COVID.”

Referring to the government’s enforcement of pandemic safety policies, Trump said that “what [Democrats] did during COVID” was “horrible.” He told the Fox News host that “people weren’t even allowed to meet outside and they were 10 feet apart in some big field—they’d arrest everybody. They were fascists. They were horrible. That was a very bad time for organized religion.”

“Religion” gives people “some hope,” Trump said, adding that he believes in heaven. “If I’m good, I’m going to heaven,” he said. “And if I’m bad, I’m going to someplace else, like over there. Right?”

Trump described religion as “something that is so good for a country” and indicated his belief that during the Biden administration, “we lost a lot.”

Ingraham asked Trump what he prays for. Trump responded, “Well, pray for our country. Obviously, I pray for the same thing you pray—our family and our country…and I guess we have a world. I pray for the world too.”

Trump went on to say that he “stopped what could have been world wars” when he was president and expressed that he believes the nation is “very close to a world war.”

“The Middle East is ready to blow up [and] the Russia-Ukraine thing is much more serious than you even know,” he added.

Finishing his answer to Ingraham’s question, Trump said he believes that Vice President Kamala Harris is “more incompetent” than President Joe Biden.

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